Prisoners to get voting rights !

By : Forum Member
Published 23rd May 2012 |
Read latest comment - 11th June 2012

Not had a rant for a while but this positively made me scream at the radio first thing this morning.

Not really heard that much about it, but from my understanding Prisoners will soon be eligible to vote as directed by The Court of Human Rights interfering as usual with UK Law.

If you break the law you should expect to be locked away and all your "Human" rights should be stripped away. What right do they have to break the Law in the first place?

Im fed up with these bloody doo-gooders saying that they have rights for this & that - they gave up all those rights the second they beat up someone, broke in to houses, rape, murder the list goes on.

The ONLY good thing is Europe have said we can implement these changes as we see fit and not all prisoners will get this right, its up to the Government to decide who can & cant.

My 2 pennies - bring back hard labour & National Service - i have to work to provide x-boxes & TVs for my kids, why should these lay abouts get them for free in their cells start making a prison a deterrant and not a holiday camp!!!!

*Clives off to calm down with a coffee ! *

Clive
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I have to admit I don't really have a problem with prisoners being able to vote. If as we are led to believe we all live in a democratic society Then everyone should be allowed to vote for one of our great leaders... I strongly believe that everyone in a democratic society has the right to vote. Im also a believer that the age of voters should be reduced, if as a 16yr old worker who pays tax and contributes to society I see no good reason why they are not entitled to vote, yet is forced to pay into the Governments coffers!
What I do object to, is being forced by an unelected parliament into giving people certain rights...

Thanks,
Barney

Hmm, interesting one. If you are serving a sentence for breaking one of our societies rules, then is suspension of the normal rights of being a member of that society a bad thing?

Other than being flippant after a beer, I wouldn't want to see National Service, we can't afford the remains of the armed forces we currently have.

But I'd definitely go with some form of serious labour program, filling in potholes, road building programmes. Outsource cheap labour to the private sector.

Steve Richardson
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Why do prisoners want the vote?

The political system in England is biased towards the three main political parties (all three are incompetent). Smaller political parties have virtually no chance of getting elected representatives into government.

Where are the direct action and focused Pressure Groups? England needs a Tea Party type organisation to pressure and force MP's and Councillors to actually represent people rather than their own selfish interests.

Nothing is going to change so rely on yourself and not politicians.

andrewtomkinson

I am not in favour of disenfranching anyone who has gone to prison. There may be a case to take it away from lifers or some high level of seriousness.

Thing is why take away a fundamental right for as put before breaking rules. Many people do it but don't get caught.

Bill Ryan

Im all in favour of rehabilitation but what is the point of sending someone to Prison where they then get treated as good as someone who has to work for their possessions.

No-one forces them to break the Law - Prison should be hard labour and not a nice place to go, there shouldnt be TVs, game stations, Voting Rights - it should be a punishment not a holiday camp.

Re the Voting, dont get me wrong i choose not to vote as i agree with Andrew and i believe all Politicians to be liars and cheats, the expenses row still rings loudly in my ears! It doesnt matter what promises they make, the second they get in to power they forget everything they said and spend years berating the other party for cocking up

With fuel prices just starting to come down a tad i hear that there is a 3p rise due in August, which will actually turn out to be 4p by the time you add VAT - this consistent rise in Fuel Duty cannot continue -enough is enough

Clive

Both men and women have in the past died fighting for the right to vote. And because you can vote you should vote, in my opinion if you don't make the effort to vote then you are never in a position or have the right to criticise those running the show.
As for prisoners voting, I cannot see what the problem is. By all means feed them bread and water, lock them up for 23hrs a day, hang the odd one every now and then let the state give them give them an apology/pardon 30years later. Let's not stop there, as it's the diamond jubilee let's bring back being hung, drawn and quartered...

Thanks,
Barney

I suppose a lot depends on what the purpose of prison is.

Just punishment or is there more to it like rehabilitation and reduction of re-offending?

Bill Ryan

Both men and women have in the past died fighting for the right to vote. And because you can vote you should vote, in my opinion if you don't make the effort to vote then you are never in a position or have the right to criticise those running the show.
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Havent criticised anyone individually - i agree if you dont vote you cant bleat at an individual party - i said all parties are as bad as each other and dont see the point as they are ALL a waste of space

I suppose a lot depends on what the purpose of prison is.

Just punishment or is there more to it like rehabilitation and reduction of re-offending?

Yep - good point - again i have said im all for rehabilitation but there should be more of a deterant making Prisons not such a nice place to go - never been inside so cant say how good or bad it is to be fair. i can only go by what the news broadcasts, not sure how much hype is behind that!

Clive

I suppose a lot depends on what the purpose of prison is.

Just punishment or is there more to it like rehabilitation and reduction of re-offending?

From an uninformed layman point of view, I'd say the purpose is punishment. If the penalty is deemed high enough then wouldn't this act as a deterrent to reduce initial offending rather than re-offending?

Although harsh and probably barbaric to us Westerners, while I was in Saudi years ago, crime seemed minimal and you wouldn't worry about locking your car.

I'm sure a lot of opportunist thief's would think twice if getting caught meant a trip to chop chop square and losing a hand

The media tells us prisons are full to capacity and everyone sits there watching TV, playing xbox and having a good time.

I doubt it's really like that, but I'd like to think the hooligans that recently burgled my disabled grandmother will be punished, preferably horse whipped, which would probably make them think twice about doing it again...

Steve Richardson
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