Soft prison system? UK apparently are the masters of Torture!

Waaaaaaaay ahead of you after my vandalised car this morning.

Just give me 5 mins with them, thats all i need to extract 3 or 4 teeth, or a few finger nails ..... they wouldnt do it again lol

Is it Iran or Iraq that chops off hands for theft, now thats what i call a deterrent 

As a nation we were masters in just about every dicipline you could ever imagine in days gone by. From our bowmen at The Battle of Agincourt to the Battle of Britain our technology and ability to invent ways of killing the enemy and overcome massive obstacles is the staff of legends. The art of torture being one of our better skills over the last 500 years, regrettably it is no longer used in main stream prisons, this would clearly breach human rights.....

is it still used against terrorists or spy's, the establishment are inevitably compelled to deny this type of behaviour. What the eyes don't see etc etc 

I often pass the pub near Tower Bridge called the Hung, Drawn and Quartered. Which kind of sums up our history... Apparently they only did this to the menfolk, women were just burned at the stake for reasons of public decency!

Theft and petty vandalism is just malicious, of course there are much worse crimes and Prison is the way forward.

Seems i'm in the minority for hanging etc for the more serious crimes, but for petty crimes, including the Amoeba that keyed my car, why can't we bring back the stocks?

24 hours in one surely would rehabilitate them? 

24hrs in one? Ha ha, let me see, start of with an early morning call around 8am, breakfast served at 8:30, doctors and medical treatment between 10am and 11am, workshop or gymnasium till 12:30pm. Stop for a spot of lunch, have a snooze till around 1:30pm, exercise till around 2:30pm, back to the workshops and possible visits from relatives / friends till 4:30pm, tea time with a selection of meals on offer till 5:30. 6:30pm till 8:30pm association with options to play snooker or table tennis, maybe watch a movie, phone home. 8:30pm retire to ones cell for the rest of the day and watch more television and partake in some recreational drugs.... Yeah that's going to teach them

I would be the first to agree that prison has a role to play in deterring low level crimes, however many courts reserve the custodial sentence for the more violent criminals. With only 84,000 beds we need to be careful who we lock up. 

I do like the idea of summary justice, public floggings for vandalism and the stocks for public order is a great and cheap alternative. My only reservation would be the introduction of the private sector ie G4S and others, they would flog the wrong person and still charge the government twice for thier failure....

Do think as a Nation we have gone soft.

Only 30-40 years ago Police were perhaps feared is the wrong word but could still command huge respect.

Kids are taught at a very early age that they have rights, whilst i totally accept that they do, they are not taught to respect their elders, the police or even the teachers anymore, instead they are taught they can do what they like when they like and "i don't have to do that if i don't want to!"

Society is self imploding due to a lack of respect to Law & Order.