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Mobile apps. Are they worth it? 6th February 2014 11:07 AM
I think there's always a place for an innovative app.

Yes, we've got lots of apps for everything, most of them are rubbish, actually.
In fact, many people try to design apps to compete with the well-known ones and they fail to get enough downloads on the saturated market.

However, my colleague from LA designed an app that enables users to record their thoughts about places they visit. Pretty simple, isn't it?

He's now getting hundreds of downloads and even some US celebrities using the app and tweeting about it!

I think it's always worth breathing some fresh air - if you've got an idea that is different and enough means to design and promote it well, the success is very possible

I fully agree with you! Your friend's app is another evidence that apps could be surprisingly effective if they bring value to their audience.

for your friend's success!
Mobile apps. Are they worth it? 5th February 2014 8:32 PM
I have been toying with a mobile app now for about 5 years! Originally we thought it was a gimmick, and not enough mobile traffic to warrant it.

Now I think we may have missed the boat and the market is saturated with apps.

There seems to be an app now for just about everything, but ones I've tried, such as the Facebook one and Google+ one I think are rubbish, and I prefer the mobile website versions.

The one thats blown me away and I think is superb and makes perfect sense, is the BBC weather app, that knows your location, and gives you an instant forecast.

I agree with you that the market is saturated, but it full of useless apps, and this market will never be filled. It's like with websites, blogs, social networks: we will face new products again and again.

I think that rules have been changed, and modern app developers should solve problems of their clients by apps. Nowadays it's not a problem to find a company who make apps or websites, but sometimes it's difficult to find the right solution.

A lot of apps aren't good, but we can say the same about websites.
Custom business app developers work under NDA + full assignment (it's very popular in Ukraine). When they think about creating something for a showroom they make something simple like a timer, simple game or else etc. That's why stores are full of such useless apps (my suggestion ).
I don't use mobile versions of popular services, I prefer apps. I agree with your opinion on Google+ app. These guys haven't cared about UX+UI (comfort+visual appeal), until Android 4.4 Kit Kat, so I believe they will improve all their products soon. By the way, facebook has improved their app by changing its technology from html+javascript to native software development kit.

But does an app for an average ecoomerce site, a tradesmens site, or even a professional services site make any sense for small businesses, who have minimal resources, and are unlikely to get much exposure and people interested in downloading it?

Don't mean to belittle apps, they are obviously a huge established market. But looking at them as a marketing tool/gimmick/customer interaction tool for a small business I'm not that convinced.

I understand your scepticism, and I know that a lot of business owners share that opinion. The reason why that happened is next: a lot of app developers just care about technical and visual parameters, but they don't work on key business problems of their customers.

Mobile app for small/mid business shouldn't be a standalone product. It should work with company's website, it should be useful for customers by bringing value to them. Small and mid-sized companies should concentrate on a certain problem, and apps could help to solve it.

I agree that high quality apps aren't cheap, but I would like to tell about collective business app development, which allows small companies to get expensive apps for low price:
It's like to gather in a community, discuss main problems of an industry, and invest some funds for problem solving.

For example, I decided to invent the solution for coffee shop owners. I described my solution in the article "Coffeepot: the 1st Effective Mobile App for Coffee Shops"

Such kind of solutions could be developed for lots of small and mid-sized companies.
Mobile apps. Are they worth it? 5th February 2014 2:59 PM
What do you think about mobile apps? Is it another powerful marketing tool or not?
The Cold Calling Poll 5th February 2014 2:39 PM
I think that cold calls don't work because people have Internet, but you can use phone research combined with email marketing, autoresponder messages and ppc campaigns. Email marketing is also effective, but it has become more targeted and value-oriented. You should bring a solution to a certain audience in your emails, help people.

I use phone research when I do user experience research and I need to hear opinion of real people, what do they really think about my app, project, what difficulties they have with it.

But cold calls are still alive in Ukraine and Russia, especially in B2B.
If your website is your main sales channel then you should adopt mobile asap. Another good thing to do is to analyze your website traffic and understand what browsers and platforms are used to reach your pages. For e.g., you can do it with Google Analytics or if you want more data then Crazy Egg or with the best one -ClickTale.

On the other hand, you can test if your customers want you to go mobile.
For e.g. You can set a button with "mobile version" title at the home page of your website, link that button to the notification message "Sorry for inconvenience, but our mobile website is under construction", and after measure how many people will click on it. After a month of such test drive, you will get the clearest idea whether you need a mobile website or not.


Unfortunately, I can't add the picture, because I'm not allowed to post any links yet, but I want to show you some infographic from my personal blog. It's about how people in USA use their smartphones and tablets in shopping activities. It's based on Nielsen's data.

You can google this image by name:

Mobile Apps for Business: About App Effectiveness and Marketing Triggers
Virtual Office 3rd February 2014 11:22 AM
We have an expression in the UK, "smoke and mirrors" ie these days it's pretty straight forward to give a credible professional image for a fraction of the cost.

Our offices are in a managed business centre, Minerva Mill, a big old converted industrial mill. There are office sizes from 50 employees down to single 1 man offices.

Then there there is a hot desk centre, where some people like consultants, advisors just touch down irregularly to catch up on admin. Then finally there are the virtual businesses that are registered here, and have their mail sent here.

Any of those businesses are welcome to hire and use meeting rooms, board rooms etc, and the building has a fully manned reception, so anyone arriving for a meeting is none the wiser.

All the businesses have the same physical address, other than the business name, so how can you tell who has a virtual office, who has a hot desk, and who has an office and is getting fleeced for electricity and phone lines

The reality is you can't. Virtual offices are a superb low cost way of giving a credible and professional image, if that's what you need.

Good expression! I think that it describes the whole entrepreneur spirit.

I like your office building it was nicely rebuild! It reminds me apartments in old industrial buildings which were completely redesigned. I love industrial high-tech design

About virtual office service:
"Any of those businesses are welcome to hire and use meeting rooms, board rooms etc, and the building has a fully manned reception, so anyone arriving for a meeting is none the wiser."

That is a great service, especially when you can invite your client to "your virtual office", especially until you rent a real one.
Virtual Office 31st January 2014 11:51 AM
No virtual office providers should be opening your mail without your permission, and this is normally only when you have requested the mail scanning service anyway. It's more about protecting the data you supply to them when you register for the service (providing your ID, etc).

Got you!) Do people in UK believe companies with virtual offices or they prefer to work with those who have real one?. For e.g., in Ukraine, we have virtual office services, but it's pretty unpopular among business people, most of the scammers use it. Ukrainian virtual office service is very poor, and it just gives you nice address in a city center. No mail scanning service or something like that.
Virtual Office 30th January 2014 12:10 PM
Thank you guys for help and great info!

I still have twisted feelings about virtual office. As I understand, people use it when they want to save money on real office, and when they want to have a cool address in London area (to show off), don't they?

From indizine's answer I got the idea how to choose the right service provider and that some of providers can read my mails without permit.
Virtual Office 29th January 2014 8:54 AM
Hi Ivan

Hope you don't mind, I've hived you off to a new thread.

I think if you want any specific London address based ones, then you will need to have a Google, but we do have a Virtual Office on the forum, based up North if that's any help?

That's fine. Thanks for help, I'll learn this info. Does Virtual Office belong to My Local Forums?
Virtual Office 28th January 2014 1:13 PM
Fair enough. A virtual office is a way of having a business address in an area (eg London) without actually having to be there.You can have a phone number, mail forwarding services etc. It's very popular in the UK, and a good way for smaller businesses to give the impression of posh offices and a smart business address, without the cost.

Sounds pretty good! Maybe, you can suggest where to buy "virtual office" address and don't get in trouble? Thanks