Unite Union too powerful?

By : Administrator
Published 28th June 2010 |
Read latest comment - 11th July 2010

Unite has offered to postpone its strike ballot of British Airways cabin crew in order to allow them time to consider its latest revised offer.

The union was due to begin balloting on Tuesday unless there was a breakthrough in the dispute, which has seen 22 days of strike action since March.

BA welcomed Unite's move calling it "a genuine opportunity to end" the row.

BBC News - Unite union offers to postpone BA strike ballot


How does doing longterm damage to BA help anyone? The ongoing dispute is leaving BA's reputation in tatters. Interesting to see the PM flew to the G20 summit on Virgin... Maybe he was worried about having his flight cancelled as well

Is it time to clip Unites wings, or do people think anything good will come from this ongoing row?

Steve Richardson
Gaffer of My Local Services
My Local Services | Me on LinkedIn
Comments
Steve don't get me started - going to have to shake my head and walk away.

I assume people saw the picture of this doughnut going on easyjet for his holidays.

tomsk

Interesting to see the PM flew to the G20 summit on Virgin... Maybe he was worried about having his flight cancelled as well

Slightly off topic but I was speaking to my wife a couple of weeks ago, can you imagine if our PM had his own jumbo to fly around in - his own airforce one.

Could not think of any other democratic country that let leaders fly around in their own jumbo!

tomsk

forum avatarMama C's Brownies
28th June 2010 12:15 PM
My husband had a Unite rep at his work last week recruiting members! They've got a pay rise due after their pay freeze last year and Unite have bulldozed in trying to get them a better deal.. I think really they should for no.1 be lucky to have a secure job and no.2 be happy to be getting a pay rise at all!

Husband thinks that they are pushing for strike action and as he wasn't keen on the idea of joining and questioned the possibility of striking and said he wouldn't due to having a family to support the idiot said jokingly 'well you can cross the picket line but we'll be hurling abuse and stones at you!' Hardly a laughing matter thought I think!

They do seem to strike for fun, almost just to make it seem it worth paying them the monthly fee!

As the resident left-wing bleeding-heart liberal pansy... I can see both sides.

I believe unions can be a good thing when it comes to making sure certain standards of employment are met. Providing pressure to try and ensure that companies aren't cutting basic health and safety measures, for instance, or supporting employees who survive a life-threatening illness or injury and then get pulled in front of a disciplinary board for 'too much time off sick', or holding the hand of people who've experienced workplace bullying/harassment, aren't articulate or confident enough to stick up for themselves in a roomful of 'suits', and don't know what to expect from the arbitration process.

I don't believe in "you're lucky to have a secure job" if that job, although secure, is putting you at risk because your employer expects you to work in unsafe conditions or with inadequate equipment, or chooses to ignore the Working Time Directive at the expense of an employees health and social well-being. We're supposed to be a civilised country that's a good hundred years or so on from kiddies working sixty-hour weeks in cramped, unsanitary sweatshops.

I also don't believe "you're lucky to get any pay rise at all" if the wage is still not enough to live on, or does not reflect inflationary increase. Often, pay-freezes and less-than-inflation 'raises' only affect the lower echelons, and even if a freeze is universal throughout the company, being frozen at

VirtuallyMary

forum avatarMama C's Brownies
28th June 2010 1:30 PM
I don't believe in "you're lucky to have a secure job" if that job, although secure, is putting you at risk because your employer expects you to work in unsafe conditions or with inadequate equipment, or chooses to ignore the Working Time Directive at the expense of an employees health and social well-being. We're supposed to be a civilised country that's a good hundred years or so on from kiddies working sixty-hour weeks in cramped, unsanitary sweatshops.

I also don't believe "you're lucky to get any pay rise at all" if the wage is still not enough to live on, or does not reflect inflationary increase. Often, pay-freezes and less-than-inflation 'raises' only affect the lower echelons, and even if a freeze is universal throughout the company, being frozen at

Exactly - I think my whole post summarises as

existence of unions: good

unions taking the p!ss: bad

no idea which of these categories the BA/Unite dispute falls into

(oh well, at least my fingers get good exercise!)

VirtuallyMary

forum avatarMama C's Brownies
28th June 2010 1:33 PM
Oh and missed the fact that the working conditions not poor so I suppose it's simply a matter of choice and opinion, the union isn't everyone.

forum avatarMama C's Brownies
28th June 2010 1:43 PM
also forgot this came across as a right stroppy git then! The people he works with infuriate me!

Personally I think worker representation needs to be balanced with the needs of the business and the rest of the workforce.

Before we go into liberal overdrive, what I mean is we no longer live in sweatshop England. Ok you may find pockets of exploited immigrants that slip through the net, but overall modern day Britain has got the issues of employments rights, via employment law pretty much sorted out.

So I dont buy the exploited workforce, or being made to work in unsafe conditons, maybe true even 10, 15, 20 years ago, but not now. But the Tradeunion organisation has retained the same amount of power, and bullying or scaring people into action or even membership is scandolous.

I can see the need for unions, if nothing else to act as business police for corporate UK PLC, but if workers are being exploited, then deal with it legally, and through the justice system, as opposed to mob rule bringing a huge employer and UK wealth contributer to its knees, which I fear could happen if this continues.

End result, BA collapse, and have to bailed out with our money, or goes pop and the whole workforce end up on the unemployment dump.

If indviduals feel that strongly, take it up with union, have your day at court, or leave! Leave the majority of the workforce, who arent interested, to provide for their families in peace.

Steve Richardson
Gaffer of My Local Services
My Local Services | Me on LinkedIn

This Thread is now closed for comments