I have a bee in my bonnet about the quality of our broadband service from BT and I've made this point here before briefly, when we were looking to install a VOIP system only to discover that we can't due to the poor quality of the network.
I know we can use vodaphone and orange as an alternative and we are investigating these options but my point is where is this country going when we are so far behind our neighbours, there seems little to look forward to in the way of upgrade. Plent of rhetoric, not much action, now we hear BT is increassing their prices by 9%.
Sorry to harp on about this but it will concern everyone at some point in the future unless we see drastic improvements.
BT broadband are awefull, i have had no internet now for 72 hours and thats set to continue for another 24 at least.....had to go and by a vodafone 2mg dongle and TBH its as quick as my "so called" broadband is/was with BT
So come on Garlex, if you're the man in charge, what would you do? We know the Govt's got no spare coffers, a nationwide upgrade will cost a fortune, so unlikely to get any new players. Spoke before about the failed fibre network plan in the nations sewer system. Public services have already been decimated, so no cash savings there. It will take BT about 50 years at their current speed. Maybe a broadband tax? Or how about if a company targets and rolls out infrastructure to a city, then gets businesses to sign up for a 5 year term upfront, to get the cash in, which then gives them the momentum and capital to expand the network? So business reaps the rewards, but longterm, residential will probably be the cash cow. Maybe we all join forces and set up a huge co-operative! Move to France? ![]()
“Maybe we all join forces and set up a huge co-operative! Move to France? ![]() Je voudrais aller demanager en France mais juis trop age'! Good question and worthy of a lot of debate from everyone involved, especially business. The way forward has to be led by the government, its such a huge undertaking, perhaps the all-inclusive bit is not so far away from what is necessary. However, it surely has to be private enterprise with the big players wholly involved. Clearly there would have to be incentives offered by government. It's all very well saying the coffers are bare and the country can't afford it but can we afford not to! Remember politicians are in charge. There is no money but we have managed to shell out another big sum for the 'exercise' in Libya. First of all there has to be a will and the politicians need to fully realise the problems companies (and therefore the country) are already encountering, plenty of new technology out there, just not much chance of using a lot of it to its full potential. How many of us sit there working on our PC's swearing about the slow speed of our networks and imagine how much extra work we could get done with a decent network! Multiply that by everyone in the same situation in the UK, the difference in efficiency and the resultant output would be phenominal! Getting the country out of the problems we have is not just geared to paying of the debt and relying once again on banking and the service industries. We must have some of the best business minds and innovators and inventors in the world but the majority seem to end up in other countries, WHY???? For this country to compete with the likes of China and India and others in the future we need to act sooner rather than later. Its the will that has to change, apathy doesn't work! garlex
“However, it surely has to be private enterprise with the big players wholly involved. Clearly there would have to be incentives offered by government.” It almost needs a telecoms alliance of BT, Virgin, Mobile Phone operators? But overseen and controlled by who? If it's a govt dept, it will be inefficient and descend into redtape. Maybe National Grid could take it on? Make broadband as important and Electricity and Gas? They could prob utilise their own infrastructure, pylons and pipelines? They already have 2 services coming into most houses. "National Grid is an international electricity and gas company and one of the largest investor-owned energy companies in the world..." National Grid: About Our UK Businesses
Perhaps we can start with a whip round here!!! garlex
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“problem with other providers is they still rely on BT exchanges..............” Yup that's the problem, apart from the larger towns which also have cable, the rest of us are stuck with an ageing copper wire infrastructure ![]() To make it worse, the 1970's estate I used to live on was wired with cheap aluminium cable, which BT used in the 70's and 80's due to cost of copper. The downside is apparently (so a BT guy told me) this aluminium corrodes quicker, 30 years later, it is past its sell by date. We had no end of phone outages and noisy lines. BT were round repeatedly digging up the roads, and an engineer told me the only real fix was to replace the whole lot, which they couldn't afford to do and instead constantly patched it up. So if anyone lives in a 1970's/80's house and has a noisy phone line, chances are you local exchange connection is aluminium cable ![]() Don't worry, if you live long enough, you may see it replaced with fibre....
When BT finally gets round to replacing it with fibre , the next 'technological breakthrough' will no doubt happen and we'll have to wait another few decades again to benefit. I'm not cynical!!! garlex |
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