Is Afghanistan set to be the next Vietnam?

By : Administrator
Published 14th March 2012 |
Read latest comment - 15th May 2012

Ok, time for some controversy, over a very emotive subject...

Although in hind-site, I'll confess to agreeing to the decision to topple the Taliban and to put troops in Afghanistan, and the arguments put forward at the time seemed convincing.

But with the ongoing regular tragic deaths and IED mutilations of coalition troops, atrocities from rogue Afghan forces, and now the recent atrocity from a coalition soldier, you do wonder what has been really achieved.

The US President and UK PM are working out an advanced timeline to remove us from the frontline, and to hand over security to the Afghans, which has to be a good thing, or at least for us.

But once the backup and support has gone, will the Afghan security forces be strong enough to resist Taliban pressure? Their families will be leaving in fear, you can imagine corruption and insurgents slowly sliding into the mechanisms of power. Will all the good stuff, reforms, womens rights, kids education, schools and other infrastructure projects be in vain? If the Taliban take full control, do we have to go back in, in a few years?

You'd think the UK would have known better, read any history book, we've been here before, countless times in different places

As extraction dates for combat forces are brought forward, does anyone else have that image of the US Helicopter on the Embassy roof in Saigon?

I don't think anyone will argue about the job done by Coalition forces, I only hope it wasn't simply a tragic waste of life.

Steve Richardson
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forum avatarAlan2011
15th March 2012 2:30 AM
In ED Kennndys term its a quagmire and why?? Its the friggin politicans that r getting in the way as they did in VN. Now we are there for Nation Building what a waste of military personnel!!

Its been a really volatile time over there. I can imagine that everyone is excited to be going home as well. I did agree with some of the points made when the decision to "invade" was made. I guess it worked in some ways, and at the same time opened the doors to more problems. For what its worth, I just hope that it wasn't all in vain. That any measures set up before everyone leaves stays put and is not corrupted.

Thanks,
Dreamraven

Was interesting to watch the President and PM's speech on the TV yesterday. Some good spin, and lots of feel good stuff, how much better things are, and how the Afghan security forces are now looking after large chunks of area themselves, markets reopening etc.

Also mentioned NATO will be keeping an eye on events if they did deteriorate in years to come.

All sounded great, just hope it doesn't become one of those speeches that comes back and haunts...

Steve Richardson
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Let's hope so. It would be awful to have another person spend time in jail for doing something like throwing shoes at a president. I just hope it all works out now, and that the afghan people can finally have some peace amidst all this. In most "wars", no one ever thinks about the civilians caught in the crossfire.

Thanks,
Dreamraven

Not sure of the rights or wrongs of us being in Afghanistan, all I know is, is that it would be nice that in my lifetime at some time or another the UK could spend a couple of years without being in any kind of conflict somewhere in the world. As the Uk has over the years raped and pillaged more or less every country on the planet we now don't like it when others want to try. We are now a second rate two bob country that has either given or flogged everything away and broke. Yet we are still hell bent on telling other country's how to live their lives and try enforcing democracy upon them even though in a lot of cases it dosen't seem to work here at home. Sometimes by being in these war torn country's we just inflame the situation and it come at a heavy price with the loss of our soldiers and the heartache it causes their families which in the case of Afghanistan have no idea of why they are there. As a youngster I joined the army, if I knew then what I know now then the chances of me voluntarily signing up pledging allegance to Queen and country would be quite different.
Dr David Starkey on Question Time summed it up exactly when he said that these country's do not like to be liberated by others and that they all end up as seeing the liberators as invaders.
The British empire days are long gone, it's now time to put down our Tommy guns and come back home and concentrate on putting this country back together.

Thanks,
Barney

There is no comparison between the Vietnam conflict and the 'skirmishes' that are happening in Afghanistan.

In Vietnam the Americans were fighting a well organised and trained regular army (North Vietnam).

In Afghanistan the coalition forces are fighting well organised and trained groups/individuals but they are not an army. Goat farmers with an AK47 and some explosives!

andrewtomkinson

In Vietnam the Americans were fighting a well organised and trained regular army (North Vietnam).

Well organised and using an Army structure, but utilising guerilla and militia style warfare.

In Afghanistan the coalition forces are fighting well organised and trained groups/individuals but they are not an army. Goat farmers with an AK47 and some explosives!

Or you could say well organised Taliban cells and sympathisers using guerilla tactics.

As to how co-ordinated they are, no doubt we will have to wait for the historians to document, but once coalition forces are finally free of Afghanistan, I suspect we will see the true command structure of the Taliban re-emerge as it inevitably weaves its way back into power.

Lets hope our children learn more from history than we did and stay well clear.

Steve Richardson
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