Migration at what price?

By : Forum Member
Published 4th September 2015 |
Read latest comment - 9th September 2015

Was sat on my better half's sofa last night, idle chat turned to silence as we watched the harrowing scene of the poor 3 yr old drowned on the beach.

More shocking was that ITV news decided to show his body, face down on the beach. As shock turned to anger at ITV for showing such an appalling shocking photo, the story continued to Hungary where migrants where allowed to board a train, believing it was destined to Germany only to find they were off to a processing detention centre. More shocking scenes of desperate people in desperate times. My opinion changed somewhat when they started demanding to go to Germany though. What rights do they have to do so? No papers, no ID, no passports. All done deliberately so they cannot be returned to their Country of origin.

BUT - why are they doing this? Who has said that Germany, UK indeed the rest of Europe is the place for them?

I understand that they are fleeing atrocities in their own Country, but what i've clearly missed is the reason behind this sudden surge/influx of migrants in their thousands fleeing and demanding to be allowed into the EU.

No solution here, just shock and anger at what sometimes is mindless headline grabbing news companies taking advantage of appalling scenes. Surely the message must get to them that the grass isnt greener and there is a huge risk to life if they continue to try and cross borders

Something has to be done to prevent a repeat of yesterday, which I fear is only the tip of the iceberg of what is going to happen in the coming days. 

All of the above taken in to consideration, my thoughts are with those families that have lost their loved ones in such a shocking way. 


Clive
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Short answer - there is no easy solution.

However, surely on a humanitarian basis we should allow, whilst at the same time get all the politicians in europe to work together to try and find a solution. 

Interesting article and pictures from the BBC.


After reading your post I am bit confused. Can we not think that first we are human being and then religious, geographical and recital entities. If you look at this situation from that angle then what will be your reaction after seeing this poor baby's death?


I think it's desperately sad that people are so intent on escaping their own country they will risk not just their own, but their children's lives. It's terrifying really. We are so privileged here and it's not their fault they were born in a different country. 

I think people who comment about keeping them out must be pretty hardhearted. There's lots of local campaigns to collect clothes etc and I am going to try and help in some way. 

There's no easy solution of course, but hearing about some people in Hungary being tricked into boarding a train for Germany that actually took then to a refugee camp made for very uncomfortable/sinister reading.

 

 


I think it's desperately sad that people are so intent on escaping their own country they will risk not just their own, but their children's lives. It's terrifying really. We are so privileged here and it's not their fault they were born in a different country. 

I think people who comment about keeping them out must be pretty hardhearted. There's lots of local campaigns to collect clothes etc and I am going to try and help in some way. 

There's no easy solution of course, but hearing about some people in Hungary being tricked into boarding a train for Germany that actually took then to a refugee camp made for very uncomfortable/sinister reading.

 

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These people were not tricked in to doing anything. I actually watched the News that night and i saw someone trying to convince them that the train was not going to Germany, announcements were made stating the train was not going to Germany - so where or how have they been tricked?

I'm confused also as refugees claim asylum in the first EU Country - so isn't that Hungary? Again what rights do they have to claim asylum in any other Country?

Not trying to be harsh - just trying to understand where this is going wrong.


Clive

Fair enough if I was misinformed I guess someone hyped it up. However I think the issue it's that Hungary are refusing to let them claim asylum there or not making it easy anyway. 

Whatever is going on I'm planning on donating clothes and other items to Lesvos in Greece where a lot of the refugees are ending up. They're struggling there. I have a eyewitness account of it there.

I'm definitely seeing some rather unsavoury comments about asylum seekers on social media and it's a shame people aren't more caring, rather than being so quick to protect the borders. 


I am not being callus ,but here is the true story of the main topic that has emerged

https://www.knightstemplarinternational.com/video-the-truth-about-why-the-little-syrian-boy-died/


Thanks,
Andy-C | Pewter World

Not convinced by that article, but emotional imagery sells papers and advertising.

As a species, we're not very nice. We don't seem to have evolved very far from the genocide of the 1930's and 40's, Cambodia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine to name a few.

As the global population increases, poverty and lack of education feed extremism of all flavours, can you ever imagine a time when the world is at peace? I just hope my kids don't end up living in a Mad Max style world

No wonder we don't hear about UFO's landing anymore, there's probably a big diversion sign at the edge of the galaxy saying stay away, dangerous nutters ahead!

Most people making all the noise publicly on social media or news channels are armchair critics. The ones that are actually doing something about it and trying to help are too busy to care. 


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